Topic: Key details (midi note) of instruments in EZDrummer2?

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Replied December 28, 2017 at 13:57 #2001557

Catspaw
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Well, apparently I’ve answered my own question. Right-clicking on an instrument gets you a menu. Click on “Details” and you get note info.

The “Key” info is either wrong or I’m misunderstanding what it means. If you click on (toggle) “Key”, you will get the actual midi “Note”.

In the case of the basic bass drum, the “Key” is designated as C1, but the actual midi note is 36. 36 corresponds directly with the note played in my piano roll.

So, I apparently have no idea what “Key” is supposed to be.

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Replied January 2, 2018 at 10:20 #2001630

Henrik
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Key is just the name of the piano key that corresponds to the MIDI note number, useful for those who wants to know the piano key name of the MIDI note. Was that what you didn’t understand?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
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Replied January 10, 2018 at 17:18 #2001813

Catspaw
Participant

Thank you for the response. No, I understand the “Key” is the musical value. What I haven’t understood is … The EZ bass drum is C1, midi note 36. When I click on, place a note, whatever on the piano roll at C1, some other instrument plays. If I want to play the kick I have to play something like C3 or C4 (don’t remember exactly.) It’s like EZ is transposed by two or three octaves.

Seems to me that C1(36) is C1. If the bass drum is C1 and C1 is played, then the bass should play. But it doesn’t. Piano roll is playing C1, EZ bass is set to C1, and EZ (or FL) decides it’s going to play something OTHER than C1.

I can transpose the notes in FL studio by changing the root note in EZ (using as a VST). Then everything lines up. Simple fix I suppose.

But, what’s the point in having a standard (MIDI) that you have to clean up/fix. I want to spend time making music, not trouble shooting VST/DAW inconsistencies.

I think I’ve finally identified all the informational displays now. So, I’ll go back in and make some tests to see if I can identify who’s doing exactly what.
Replied January 10, 2018 at 17:30 #2001814

Catspaw
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Well, for what’s it’s worth …. I found that FL studio has C3 as midi note 36. So, EZ appears to be doing it’s job.

There could be some unbeknownst setting, that I’m not aware of at this time, that causes the piano roll to have the map it has.

At least posting this helped me line up the problem for myself and made me dig for better understanding. I now know more about my system than I did and that’s always a good thing. Who knows, maybe it will answer some one else’s question some time.

[next time I’ll work harder before posting … that math thing needed to post is hard ….]

I will also add for informational purposes, that it appears there’s a discrepancy in the mfg. industry for where octaves are placed. So, there is no violation of the standard. Both FL and EZ drummer, while placing the octaves at different points, are both correct.

Consequently, this is nothing more than an adjustment for the system/equipment and not some error in compatibility.

Replied January 11, 2018 at 08:47 #2001829

Henrik
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@Catspaw said:
Well, for what’s it’s worth …. I found that FL studio has C3 as midi note 36. So, EZ appears to be doing it’s job.

What you discovered is that there are really two standards here, Roland thinks that middle of the piano is C4, according to Yamaha it is C3. Different DAWs has implemented one of these two standards, hence the confusion… If only people and companies could be agreeing more with each other, we would have a better world 🙂

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

Replied March 28, 2020 at 20:00 #2553075

J.Graham
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disregard

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Key details (midi note) of instruments in EZDrummer2?

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