Topic: Consolidation in the mixer

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Replied October 1, 2017 at 08:33 #1998729

Brad
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Do you mean like a VCA fader, that controls a number of faders for a defined group? In that case no. The closest thing I would say would be using buses, so all snares go to a bus, all toms to a bus, etc…. and then those buses go to their own output channels…. I hope I am understanding you properly.

Thinking about it…
You might be able to achieve close to it using macro controls.
I will play around with them tomorrow and see….

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Replied October 1, 2017 at 17:31 #1998738

Mario Krušelj
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Macro controls sounds like just the thing.

Replied October 1, 2017 at 17:33 #1998739

Brad
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Tried to update my original post,
I created a Snare bus, routed the top/bottom to it, bound it to a macro knob. Figured out what other channels had snare bleeds, bound their bleed sliders to the same macro knob.
Seems to work just like that.

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Replied October 2, 2017 at 01:37 #1998759

olliepudge
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Thanks guys! I’ll give it a shot. I haven’t used macros yet. Are you saying the macro control will take over as the primary fader then? Like if I turn it all the way down, will the snare be muted?

Replied October 5, 2017 at 05:03 #1998909

olliepudge
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Hi Toontrack,

I would like your feedback on this as well please. Thanks!

Josh

Replied October 5, 2017 at 09:44 #1998921

Henrik
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Yes, you can try it yourself.
For example:
* Press the properties button on a not assigned macro knob, that open the properties popup
* Press “Add…”
* Drag all tom channel volumes to bottom
* Press “Save Start”
* Drag all tom channel volumes to a volume that you want to be a maximum
* Press “Save End”

Now your macro control should change volumes of all tom channels in the mixer.

You can read more about this in https://www.toontrack.com/manual/superior-drummer-3/8/8-2-binding-a-control-to-a-macro

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

Replied October 23, 2017 at 04:58 #1999713

olliepudge
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@Henrik said:
Yes, you can try it yourself.
For example:
* Press the properties button on a not assigned macro knob, that open the properties popup
* Press “Add…”
* Drag all tom channel volumes to bottom
* Press “Save Start”
* Drag all tom channel volumes to a volume that you want to be a maximum
* Press “Save End”

Now your macro control should change volumes of all tom channels in the mixer.

You can read more about this in https://www.toontrack.com/manual/superior-drummer-3/8/8-2-binding-a-control-to-a-macro

Hi Henrik,

So I assigned all snare mixer faders to a macro, but the macro control doesn’t control them correctly. What I want is for the macro knob to adjust every snare fader without affecting the volumes I have set in the mixer. Right now it seems to adjust them all at the same volume. Hope this makes sense. Any tips?

Replied October 23, 2017 at 10:25 #1999720

Henrik
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@olliepudge said:
What I want is for the macro knob to adjust every snare fader without affecting the volumes I have set in the mixer.

I am not following you there, on what you want to achieve. Can you give an example of what you want to happen in a scenario?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

Replied October 23, 2017 at 14:53 #1999728

olliepudge
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@Henrik said:

@olliepudge said:
What I want is for the macro knob to adjust every snare fader without affecting the volumes I have set in the mixer.

I am not following you there, on what you want to achieve. Can you give an example of what you want to happen in a scenario?

Sure I’ll try. Let’s say I have the top snare mixer channel set one way and the snare bottom channel set at a lower volume. When I use the macro knob, I want to control both of them, but I want them to hold there differences in volume. Right now, it levels every fader off at the same volume. So when I increase the macro knob I’m getting way more snare bottom than I originally had set in the mixer. Does that make sense? Kind of hard to explain. Thanks.

Replied October 23, 2017 at 15:42 #1999729

Henrik
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Can sending the snares to a bus, and then controlling the bus volume, achieve that in your case?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

Replied October 23, 2017 at 16:42 #1999730

olliepudge
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@Henrik said:
Can sending the snares to a bus, and then controlling the bus volume, achieve that in your case?

Don’t think so. I was using the macro control because I need a way to control the overall volume of all snare mics. Meaning if I turn it down the snare will be muted. The bus fader wouldn’t do that correct? It would just control that bus.

Replied October 24, 2017 at 10:52 #1999747

Henrik
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if you route different snare mic channel’s outputs to a bus, turning the level of that bus all the way down will make all the snare channels silent. Is that what you want to happen?

Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack

Replied October 24, 2017 at 15:25 #1999754

olliepudge
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@Henrik said:
if you route different snare mic channel’s outputs to a bus, turning the level of that bus all the way down will make all the snare channels silent. Is that what you want to happen?

Correct Henrik. I want one fader for the snare, kick, toms, etc. to control the overall volume once I have everything set to my liking in the mixer. I usually stack 3-5 snares and send each of them to a bus, so that’s a lot of levels to control. I just want to have one fader for the volume when I have everything set right. Hence consolidate the mixer like the title of this thread. Can you tell me how to route the outputs to a bus so I can achieve this? I could probably figure it out but some help would be great. Thanks!

Replied October 24, 2017 at 15:53 #1999755

Henrik
Participant

Are you using multiple outputs, or stereo?

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Toontrack

Replied October 24, 2017 at 17:39 #1999762

Brad
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@Henrik said:
if you route different snare mic channel’s outputs to a bus, turning the level of that bus all the way down will make all the snare channels silent. Is that what you want to happen?

By routing all the snare outputs to the bus and manipulating the bus fader the OP should be able to manage all the close snare mics with the bus fader. The only reason I mentioned using macros was in addition to the close mics, there could be several bleed sources that wouldn’t be manipulated by using the bus fader AND I think macros are very cool and powerful. However, perhaps I was just over complicating things.

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