Topic: MIDI packs versus expansion packs

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Replied February 4, 2017 at 20:01 #1993291

Scott
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MIDI packs contain MIDI drum grooves only. EZXs contain sounds as well as MIDI grooves.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
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Replied February 4, 2017 at 20:28 #1993292

David George
Participant

Thanks, Scott. Due to the projects I’ve been working on I haven’t used the MIDI pack or the EZX I have that much yet (or least enough to realize what’s different).

Replied April 12, 2017 at 19:31 #1994535

Brian Wijaya
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@Scott said:
MIDI packs contain MIDI drum grooves only. EZXs contain sounds as well as MIDI grooves.

But do EZXs contain ALL the MIDI grooves that the same-name MIDI pack does?

I’m looking to buy the Alt-Rock EZX (which says it comes with “a selection” of grooves), and I saw that the Alt-Rock MIDI pack has 400+ grooves. Does that Alt-rock EZX have ALL 400 of the grooves in the MIDI pack?

Replied April 12, 2017 at 20:00 #1994536

Scott
Moderator

@bmw4b789 said:

But do EZXs contain ALL the MIDI grooves that the same-name MIDI pack does?

I’m looking to buy the Alt-Rock EZX (which says it comes with “a selection” of grooves), and I saw that the Alt-Rock MIDI pack has 400+ grooves. Does that Alt-rock EZX have ALL 400 of the grooves in the MIDI pack?

Unless stated as otherwise, all MIDI packs contain unique MIDI that isn’t duplicate or repeated anywhere else in any other MIDI pack or EZX or SDX.

In the pic below for the Americana MIDI, it states that it is the same MIDI as in the Americana EZX. If it doesn’t indicate that, it isn’t available in another product.

The Alt-Rock MIDI pack contains unique MIDI since it isn’t stated as such. The Alt-Rock EZX has its own MIDI and it would say indicate it if it had duplicate MIDI.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
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Replied April 12, 2017 at 20:06 #1994537

David George
Participant

I don’t think that’s always the case. The EZX Reggae grooves and the Reggae Beats MIDI seem to be different.

For example, Roots/Straight 4/4 in the EZX are 110 bpm.

The Roots Straight 4/4 in the MIDI are 100 or 120 bpm.

The biggest fault I find with EZD2 in general is that the grooves do not have unique file names: I go slightly batty with everything being “Variation 1,” etc.

Replied April 12, 2017 at 20:09 #1994538

David George
Participant

Thanks for clarifying, Scott. We were replying at the same time, it seems.

Replied April 18, 2017 at 01:31 #1994596

David George
Participant

@dg27 said:The biggest fault I find with EZD2 in general is that the grooves do not have unique file names: I go slightly batty with everything being “Variation 1,” etc.

I take this comment back: I did not know that clips can be renamed so easily. I’ve started assembling folders in my user MIDI, named as per the MIDI pack from which the clip comes. I didn’t realize that you could right click and call them whatever you want. For me I go with the “family” plus the part it is, plus the number of the variation. This is very useful.

Replied November 30, 2019 at 04:30 #2505268

Philippe Edouard
Participant

Hi Guys. I read all what you all said. just wanna make sure I understand? did you all mean if I buy the Reggae EZX, the midi file in Reggae EZX would be the same as the Reggae Beat Midi or not? I plan to purchase Reggae EZX but I want to make sure if I’d need both. Thanks

Replied November 30, 2019 at 15:49 #2506616

John
Moderator

A picture says more than a thousand words….

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

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Replied December 2, 2019 at 04:35 #2510911

Philippe Edouard
Participant

Guys. I wanna say thanks for all the helps? I am new to the Toontrack family so I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the midi pack? For example if I could combine/ Mix EZkeys midi and EZdrummer midi together to make the 6? or should it be EZkeys midi alone and EZdrummer midi alone?

Replied November 25, 2020 at 08:33 #2650913

David Peretz
Participant

Hello But How can we know what is the difference between those independent grooves and the expansion midi? is there a list of songs or expansion options to see if it is worth it?

Thanks

Replied November 25, 2020 at 12:54 #2651283

Scott
Moderator

David Peretz wrote:

Hello But How can we know what is the difference between those independent grooves and the expansion midi? is there a list of songs or expansion options to see if it is worth it?

Thanks

If you have EZD2 or S3 you can use the Show Webshop MIDI in the browser and audition grooves in any EZX or MIDI pack.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied November 25, 2020 at 17:37 #2651853

David Peretz
Participant

Fantastic!!!

wasn’t aware of that!!! Many thanks

Replied May 22, 2022 at 20:49 #2934598

Bryan Zimmerman
Participant

I’m curious what “sounds” come with the expansion packs? If I use the midi pack, I can customize it to my heart’s content. What would steer me toward an expansion pack, as it relates to sounds, vs. the midi pack?

Thank you!

Replied May 22, 2022 at 21:36 #2934618

David George
Participant

Expansion packs include kits; midi packs do not. For example, I’ve bought expansion packs (such as alt rock) only because I wanted a specific sound, like timpani. Having several expansion packs can be very useful.
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