Hello –
I just purchased the Southern Soul EZX. The sounds are great, and will make an excellent addition to my growing collection of EZX expansions.
However, I was very disappointed with the MIDI files that come with this EZX. For one thing, there are not many grooves included – there seem to be fewer grooves and variations than any of the other half-dozen EZX’s I own.
But what bothers me more is that some of the demo grooves on the product page are not included in this EZX:
http://www.toontrack.com/product/southern-soul-ezx/
In particular, the grooves used in the following demos are nowhere to be found in this EZX, and it’s one of the main reasons I bought this product:
Southern Soul EZX – Basic Ludwig Preset (60s)
Southern Soul EZX – Basic Gretsch Preset (60s)
Southern Soul EZX – Super Dry Preset (60s)
Southern Soul EZX – Land Of Tape Preset (60s)
Southern Soul EZX – Olden Days Preset (60s)
Southern Soul EZX – Filter Grit Preset (60s)
When you use a groove not one, but SIX times in your demos, it seems reasonable that we should expect to find that groove in the product we purchase. I hope in the future you will ONLY use grooves that are included in the EZX for your demo.
I’ve searched for these grooves using Tap 2 Find. It looks like they probably came from New York Studios volume 2, but I can’t confirm that, because your audio demos are not functioning for that page.
http://www.toontrack.com/product/new-york-studios-vol-2-midi/
I absolutely LOVE Toontrack products, and I use both EZDrummer and EZKeys all the time for professional purposes. But I am definitely disappointed in this purchase, and in how this product is being marketed. Thanks for reading this – I hope you take this under consideration.
– Keith
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Thanked by: jeremiah kellerUPDATE:
I found the grooves I was looking for – they are in the Soul Grooves MIDI pack. That’s a great pack, which I already owned.
Still, I’m very happy with the sounds in the Southern Soul EZX. I just think you could be both more generous with the MIDI grooves, and more accurate in how you represent the product. Thanks.
I’ve just bought this product and could not agree with you more.
The same problem occurs with the Reggae EZX, very few grooves compared to the other packs I’ve bought. You listen to the audio demos then don’t get whats demo’d. Surely this is breaking marketing/advertisement rules. It’s like ordering an album but getting the single. Paying for a Rolls and getting a metro etc etc. Definitely puts me off buying more expansion packs. As you say great sounds & program but come on people give what you advertise. I’ve not been so disappointed since I got married.
After being really excited buying this product knowing I’ll be inspired to put these grooves to my new song I’m instead wandering off alone to sulk in a corner with a blanky. It was gonna be a number one as well!
All joking aside I am very disappointed and it has killed my inspiration. I hope someone reads these posts and addresses this issue, it’s a bad marketing ploy if it’s intensional.
Glad you found them in the MIDI pack, I suppose this will force me to either buy that as well (as they obviously want me to do) or more likely use one of their competitors MIDI groove packs as I’m not inclined to give Toontrack more money.
Thanks for posting this as I was just looking for the blasted loop from the the demos myself. I ended up sampling it and then rebuilding through tracker – a pain unto itself, but couldn’t make the high hats work. I’m looking for that pattern from Oasis “Go let it out” intro drums. Guess I’ll be buying the ‘Soul Grooves’ midi. Not cool since I feel like I’ve done this with other expansion packs as well. It is truly like buying an album to not have the single included. No one wants filler, give us the hits man!
“I’ve not been so disappointed since I got married.” – this is very funny. I will share this with my wife to watch the sparks fly.
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