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What Im hating this time – about EZ Drummer 2

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• Posted November 20, 2014 at 07:25 #1902121
  David Levy

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  I have a complete song written up in the song creator / sequencer …., and now all I want to do to it is add some fills here and there …. But in EZD2 thats almost impossible.

  To do this I can listen to the individual selection of fills from song creator of from the browser etc ….. BUT …., the part that sucks is ………..,
  – How I have to include them into my existing song .

  * My Issues are ……,

  ISSUE #1 – I need to drag the fill onto an empty section “past” the end of my built song to work on the fill, as in most cases the original fill is to long and must be shortend.
  This place here is OK to do this , but ………………,

  WHAT I HATE …….., Is when I want to see if my edited/shortened fill will actually work as intended within my existing song ………., because …………..,

  Hate Issue # 1 – Is I then have to Drag that fill midi file (block) to its intended place (just to see if it even works out)……., is SOOO SLOWWWWWW ……., It takes forever .
  – It would be great if the further to the left I dragged my fill – the bars would FLY BY at a faster accelerated pace the further “LEFT or RIGHT” I dragged them towards the edge of the GUI/Screen , then the slow single pace they do now …., ZZZZZZZZ YAWN

  Hate Issue # 2 – Is If I drop that fill into a selected area , this may not be the right spot , and more often than not I have to toggle around by trial and error to find that right spot ……., BUT – If I do so that initial drop I just made is destructive …………., meaning the previous area beneath where I made the drop gets deleted – and now I am missing that section of MIDI leading up to my fill …., This THEN forces me to hit UNDO to restore the missing section of midi ………., thus taking me all the way back to hate issue # 1 all over again OMG – ZZZZZ .

  Note; the only alternative to this is to copy and paste the fill , which does not solve anything in regards to finding the correct position , and leads me to …………………,

  Hate Issue # 3 – I cant paste to anywhere I want . If I want to paste my fill , I can only do it at the start of a block. If I decide I want to paste it further up within the block , I must use the scissors to to cut that section in, so that it becomes the beginning of its own new block (ie; the only position where it “is” possible to paste to)

  Now lets consider ……………………., At this stage – ALL we are still trying to achieve is just to find out if a fill we are trailing is suitable to use in our song !!! ………….,

  ie; in context with being ‘
  – firstly in the exact correct location with the other drum beats both leading into the fill , and after it
  – to also check how it fits with what the rest of the other instruments are doing in the song.

  Now we are aware of all theses massive time consuming P.I.T.A hurdles we have just to trial a single fill……………………………………………..,

  – I now have the horrible task of going through all this all over again EACH TIME I want to trial the next possible 20 or more fills to see if they work or not – ARRRRGHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  If I want to edit the Midi , I have to export the files out of EZD2 to be dumped somewhere on my hard drive , and then imported into protools so I can access the midi editor window …, then after editing , bounce / export the midi file out of protools , and then manually import it back into EZD2
  (Note; but really thats another issue outside of this posts intention, as in depth Midi editing is a complex task, and thats why DAWS have dedicated editors)
  …., but EZD2 should simply allow dragging of any midi file into and out of EZD2 .

  Summary – Wish List ………………………………….,

  So other than wanting the ability to drag any midi file into and out of EZD2 …………,
  – Id also like to be able to drag a midi block at an accelerated pace as described in Hate issue # 1
  – Id also like to drag that midi block anywhere I want WITHOUT it being destructive , meaning whatever lied beneath it remains untouched , so I can jiggle my fill around to various places “on the fly” until I have found the best place that works
  – Id like to be able to paste to anywhere I want without using the scizzor tool to cut in an opening , and as above be able to jiggle/shuffle the block if need be.

  PS – I know an answer from Toontrack might suggest – it is more easier to construct the fills as you go by adding for example;
  Intro – verse 1 (then cut it short, to allow space for a fill) – Then next select your fill (and then edit till 100% happy ) …, and finally – drop it into its spot …,
  – Then , and only then – will you move on to the next part of your song …., but the BIG Problem with doing it this way is …………,

  In reality is songs dont need many fills (if any) and less is always more …, and you really need to listen to the whole song, and take in the mood of the complete big picture to see if something is missing , and then work out if a fill it necessary to add interest at a given point, and by what amounts of change or tension you need to create with that fill ?

  Im most cases – there is nothing worst than a drummer wanting to show off his talents (or lack of ) …, by irrelevant fills here and there …, quite often getting rid of the drums all together in that section say more than a big spastic keith moon drum fill …………., The difference between a good drummer and a bad one , is not what they CAN play , but knowing what NOT to play ………………….., and RE; EZD2 , in knowing this you first need to program the basic beats for the complete song before you consider the fills IMO.
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