Topic: 3rd Party midi libraries appear in browser, but NOT search

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Replied May 10, 2014 at 21:44 #1970901

Erik Phersson
Moderator

At this moment it’s not possible the add 3rd party MIDI into the Search tab. We are working on a solution though but I cannot say when it will be ready I’m afraid. However, even if we add the possibility to add 3rd party MIDI into Search it will not feature the same comprehensive tagging as the Toontrack MIDI since it’s impossible for us to tag all existing MIDI on the market.

Erik Phersson - Toontrack
Head Of Development

Replied May 11, 2014 at 00:26 #1970917

thomas911
Participant

Yes, I’m also really hoping there will be a way to search all my midi grooves. Maybe you can design so WE the USERS can do the tagging? When importing, a simple tag editor comes up where you can apply tags to individual grooves or entire folders. With a simple preview function. Yes let’s do that! That would be fantastic. That would also be the only way you could tag grooves that you made yourself, that I can think of.

Replied May 11, 2014 at 00:34 #1970919

Erik Phersson
Moderator

@thomas911 said:

Yes, I’m also really hoping there will be a way to search all my midi grooves. Maybe you can design so WE the USERS can do the tagging? When importing, a simple tag editor comes up where you can apply tags to individual grooves or entire folders. With a simple preview function. Yes let’s do that! That would be fantastic.

That’s the plan and one of the reasons as to why it’s not implemented yet. Designing a area that allow you users to tag your own MIDI and to do so in an Easy way is not something that we wanted to rush through. We are still discussing how to implement this but it on our short list. As to when and how we figure out how to do it (easy) is another question.

Erik Phersson - Toontrack
Head Of Development

Replied May 11, 2014 at 00:42 #1970920

anonymous_3
Participant

@Erik said:

At this moment it’s not possible the add 3rd party MIDI into the Search tab. We are working on a solution though but I cannot say when it will be ready I’m afraid. However, even if we add the possibility to add 3rd party MIDI into Search it will not feature the same comprehensive tagging as the Toontrack MIDI since it’s impossible for us to tag all existing MIDI on the market.

Hi Erik,

Do you know if the 3rd party SDX “Evil Drums” MIDI library be updated?

Replied May 11, 2014 at 01:10 #1970925

Erik Phersson
Moderator

No, since Evil Drums is not a Toontrack product it’s not included in the database I’m afraid.

Erik Phersson - Toontrack
Head Of Development

Replied May 11, 2014 at 01:13 #1970926

anonymous_3
Participant

@Erik said:

No, since Evil Drums is not a Toontrack product it’s not included in the database I’m afraid.

BUMMMER!!!

Any chance of the company “Platinum Samples” updating their SDX?

I’ll also shoot them an email in regards to this as well!

Thanks!

BTW… Didn’t mean to step on the OP’s Topic!

Replied May 11, 2014 at 18:39 #1970989

Ian Currie
Participant

Even if the tagging wasn’t there, it shouldn’t be difficult for Toontrack to implement the Tap2Find functionality – that’s just pattern matching. I’d be happy with that.

Replied May 12, 2014 at 19:09 #1971083

Kip Count
Participant

I just posted something similar, then found this thread. This is really disappointing, as my most favorite MIDI is in fact 3rd party. I don’t see how 3rd party MIDI couldn’t be easily analyzed mathematically for note positions. I understand about tags and style type stuff, but for basic pattern matching I don’t see how it should be hard to implement. It may not be as accurate as Toontrack branded MIDI, but at least it’ll give us access to the tool when using the 3rd party MIDI.

Mac Mini M1 | Studio One 6 | PreSonus 68c | EZD3

Replied May 26, 2014 at 00:48 #1971459

paulosls
Participant

@Erik said:

At this moment it’s not possible the add 3rd party MIDI into the Search tab. We are working on a solution though but I cannot say when it will be ready I’m afraid. However, even if we add the possibility to add 3rd party MIDI into Search it will not feature the same comprehensive tagging as the Toontrack MIDI since it’s impossible for us to tag all existing MIDI on the market.

Hello!

I realized that my third-party libraries 3 worked perfectly. What makes them work and others do not? Where are the configuration files? Need to rename any folder or file?
Thank you!
* (Google Translation Portuguese – English)

Replied May 29, 2014 at 05:21 #1971570

TheProfessor
Participant

Honestly, Tagging I’m not that concerned with it it works for the midi recognition, like the tap2find or song creator. You can always right click and ‘show in browser’ if you’re really concerned weather your fitting groove came from the ‘Swedish samba micro-beats in 13/9’ or the ‘radical rock and rowdy reggae rhythms’ folder. I pretty much dont care where the groove came from if it works.

Replied May 29, 2014 at 15:33 #1971579

Daniel LeSaux
Participant

Isn’t it upto those third party developpers to tag their libraries and offer new files just like ToonTrack did? Why would this be TT’s responsibility?

Replied May 30, 2014 at 19:05 #1971603

anonymous_3
Participant

@DLS Music said:

Isn’t it upto those third party developpers to tag their libraries and offer new files just like ToonTrack did? Why would this be TT’s responsibility?

Then I’m confused, because I spoke to someone over at Platinum Samples in regards to the MIDI grooves included with the 3rd party SDX “Evil Drums”, and they said it was Toontrack’s responsibility. Maybe I got the translation wrong but I’m pretty sure that was the just of the message.

Would love to see this MIDI library incorporated into the new EZD 2 MIDI features!!!

EDIT: I just received an email from “The Guy” over @ Platinum Samples… Apparently, he’s pissed at me for what I wrote here and gave me a nice little wrist slap! But in my defense… I did write “Maybe I got the translation wrong”.

So Instead of him chiming in here and trying to help the customer who bought his product, he’d rather “Big Brother” the internet and send me a nasty email like I’m some schmuck!

So my deepest apologies to you sir for being a long time customer and trying to continue to use your product (That I paid for at Full Price!) with the new EZdrummer 2 “Songwriting Features”!

Sorry to the OP for going off Topic!

Replied June 8, 2014 at 08:25 #1971920

nexttrack30
Participant

@TheProfessor said:

Honestly, Tagging I’m not that concerned with it it works for the midi recognition, like the tap2find or song creator. You can always right click and ‘show in browser’ if you’re really concerned weather your fitting groove came from the ‘Swedish samba micro-beats in 13/9’ or the ‘radical rock and rowdy reggae rhythms’ folder. I pretty much dont care where the groove came from if it works.

i agree. i don’t care bout tags, i don’t even read them when i use “tap 2 find”
really really hope toontrack just let 3rd party midi packs can be registered in database.

Replied June 8, 2014 at 08:27 #1971921

nexttrack30
Participant

@skiltrip said:

I just posted something similar, then found this thread. This is really disappointing, as my most favorite MIDI is in fact 3rd party. I don’t see how 3rd party MIDI couldn’t be easily analyzed mathematically for note positions. I understand about tags and style type stuff, but for basic pattern matching I don’t see how it should be hard to implement. It may not be as accurate as Toontrack branded MIDI, but at least it’ll give us access to the tool when using the 3rd party MIDI.

totally agree

Replied June 9, 2014 at 18:02 #1971973

Michael
Moderator

Just to be 100% clear. Toontrack MIDI was tagged by a person…. all 90,000 files. It is not calculated by a computer.

It would be impossible for Toontrack to tag all of the nearly infinite amount of 3rd party MIDI that is out there.

There may be a solution in the future for users to tag their own MIDI as Erik previously said in this thread: “Designing a area that allow you users to tag your own MIDI and to do so in an Easy way is not something that we wanted to rush through. We are still discussing how to implement this but it on our short list. As to when and how we figure out how to do it (easy) is another question.”

Michael Sanfilipp - Toontrack
Technical Marketing Coordinator
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