Topic: SD2 PT8 XP3 and dtxplorer

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Replied January 7, 2011 at 00:37 #1944320

Brad
Participant

With SD2 you should be able to create a preset based on the yamaha xplorer brain using the MIDI learn function. Highlight (right click) the SD drum you want to map, select the articulation, highlight “Learn” and hit the proper e-drum.

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Replied January 7, 2011 at 00:56 #1944322

Francis Loveridge
Participant

bradch00,

Thanks for the quick reply, it sounds fairly straight forward to me and I will have a go at it when I get home from work this afternoon and let you know how I get on.

Lawman

PT 10 Windows 7 SD2 EZMix EZKeys

Replied January 7, 2011 at 07:06 #1944327

Francis Loveridge
Participant

OK, I mapped the DTX to Superior Drummer by using the learn button on SD. Way too easy.
The problem that I now have is that it only triggers about one in every four hits. The DTX works perfectly when not connected to the computer.
Is there something in SD that I need to do so that all the triggers are recorded?
Each trigger seems to last for about 2 or 3 seconds on the computer screen.

Thanks

Lawman

PT 10 Windows 7 SD2 EZMix EZKeys

Replied January 7, 2011 at 08:35 #1944328

John
Moderator

Hi,

how do the notes look if you record them in Pro Tools?
BTW, when it comes to mapping, it’s even easier to load the ‘E-drum’ MIDI Preset on the mapping page in Superior 2 and then tweak from there.
It sets up the common notes, hihat, etc. and you just ‘Learn’ what’s not triggering correctly.
Are you using version 2.2.3?

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied January 7, 2011 at 14:00 #1944329

Francis Loveridge
Participant

John,
I haven’t recorded in PT yet but will attempt to do so in the morning.
If the DTX works perfectly as a stand alone and the triggering issue only occurs when it is plugged into SD in PT wouldn’t I assume that it is somewhere in the software? or do you assume nothing?
I will check and see what version SD I have. I bought it in a box about six months ago.

Lawman

PT 10 Windows 7 SD2 EZMix EZKeys

Replied January 7, 2011 at 22:42 #1944348

Francis Loveridge
Participant

I updated SD this morning to v. 2.2.3 and it appears to be a little better than before.
I also recorded to a stereo instrument track and if I do a drum roll or the like, the midi notes in the recording all appear to be one long midi note with no break in between instead of individual notes for each trigger hit. If I hit the snare ten times quickly I get one long midi note instead of ten separate midi notes.
How do I fix this so that each trigger hit is one midi note instead of the midi notes running into each other?
Thanks

PT 10 Windows 7 SD2 EZMix EZKeys

Replied January 13, 2011 at 02:02 #1944555

Francis Loveridge
Participant

I was hoping that I could get some ideas on this issue because if I can’t fix it then Superior Drummer is useless to me. Why would each note last for around three seconds and is there anything in SD that I can change to shorten the time each drum hit triggers for?

PT 10 Windows 7 SD2 EZMix EZKeys

Replied February 22, 2011 at 01:32 #1945885

Francis Loveridge
Participant

I still have not been able to fix my issue when recording my Yamaha drum kit in Midi. The triggers all go for around 3 seconds before releasing so I get one long midi note instead of individual notes for each hit.

I have been told that there is a problem when using Yamaha electic drums in Midi while using an M Audio interface. (I use a M Audio Project Mix)

Has anyone heard of this before?

Thanks

PT 10 Windows 7 SD2 EZMix EZKeys

Replied February 22, 2011 at 08:46 #1945892

John
Moderator

Hi,

truly sorry for not getting back to you earlier.
There is nothing that can be done in the plugin to affect the incoming MIDI note length, since it is something that happens before the plugin.
What I would examine is if there is some note length setting in the module that can be adjusted.
Are your MIDI interface drivers updated?

Best Regards,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

Replied February 22, 2011 at 18:41 #1945908

Brad
Participant

Could you check to see if you have the MIDI on/off set to Norm, or with a Key off gate time. View Page Kit11 (Page 22 of the DTXplorer manual). Perhaps you have a Key Off time set that is quite long?

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro, Pro Tools Studio
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
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Replied February 23, 2011 at 21:09 #1945950

Francis Loveridge
Participant

Thanks for the advice everyone and at last I have it figured out.

It is a problem between the DTXplorer and the Project Mix.

When I bypassed the Project Mix and go direct from the Midi out on the drums into a Midi in on my Midi keyboard then USB from the keyboard direct to the computer the whole system works perfectly.

Therefore it is something in the Project Mix that doesn’t like the DTXplorer.

I can open an instrument track in Pro Tools and the drums are instantly recognised and record perfectly and Superior Drummer maps to the drums as a plugin without any problems.

Everything now works great and I am very happy. Thanks for everyones suggestions and I hope this helps others in the same situation.

Frank

PT 10 Windows 7 SD2 EZMix EZKeys

Replied February 23, 2011 at 23:22 #1945954

Brad
Participant

Personally the few times I tried using the PM/IO as a MIDI interface I found it a little problematic. Picked up a MOTU MIDI xpress and everything worked great….

Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro, Pro Tools Studio
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)
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