Just a word of gratitude to Rail & Joe for the sensational EVIL Drums SDX.
Rocking the Presets on these,they are well wicked.
Thanks Juicy!
BTW – Check out our new metal MIDI Library: http://www.platinumsamples.com/ps/BobbyJarzombekGrooves.php
Cheers,
Rail
Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
www.platinumsamples.com
Double post, sorry……… had to order it after the comment from Juicy. All complaints from wife will directed to you:)
The problem is I just upgraded to C&V last month after holding out cause I have S1. That upgrade was worth it too!
A note about the E D midi mapping.
The real rim shot is on the E note above the D which breaks away from normal TT/GM midi mapping so be sure to make use of the solid
rim shots.
This may require some learner drivers to actually get editing existing midi files when needed,if they use them,
this is a good thing and well worth it .
Have not tested all snares yet but i’m pretty sure that real flams are up the keyboard too !!
You can set up a MIDI Node to switch from center hit to rim shot by velocity – see our forum thread:
https://www.platinumsamples.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=190&start=10
where I posted a “How To” video.
The GM Map actually does put the rim shot on the E
Flams are on A3 (69) which is also standard for SDX’s with a Flam articulation.
Thanks,
Rail
Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
www.platinumsamples.com
The real rim shot is on the E note above the D which breaks away from normal TT/GM midi mapping
Are you sure? All libraries I checked (I checked ’em all) have the ‘rimshot’ articulation at note 40 (E1) and an alias at 126 (F#8). Well, all but the MC have the alias at 126 (F#8) but the MC does have the rimshot 40 (E1).
Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor
Well this is my way of hearing it ,most of TT’s rimshots or punchy hits fire on the D at 127 velocity and they sound like what rimshots sound like on a real kit so after years of using it i guess i wrongly call them rimshots cuz most the E sound like a thin sort of missed rim (like not much drum got hit at all) at whatever level it plays at .
However Evil Drums has a definite extra oomph/crack to its rimshot which to me is what a rimshot should be.
But yes i think my above post regarding the “midi Mapping ” is incorrect technically.
Sorry bout that.Thanks Scottie.!
Hi Juicy,
Yes, TT build their snares so that the top velocity is a rim shot… we did not, our rim shots are separate.. but to emulate what TT do you can create a velocity switch node as indicated in my link above where this is discussed.
Video: https://www.platinumsamples.com/videos/SplitNode.mov
Thanks,
Rail
Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
www.platinumsamples.com
You’re right Juicy.
A rimshot is generally a fullsome backbeat incorporating both rim and centre head in the one strike.
TT libraries all include snare FX, which is often an offbeat rimshot, like an accident.
ORIGINAL: Platinum Samples
Yes, TT build their snares so that the top velocity is a rim shot…
Really? Maybe I’m misunderstanding this, but do you mean that for any regular TT snare, a velocity of 126 is actually only the snare, and 127 is a rimshot?
The split point may not be exactly at 126/127.. but yes.
Rail
Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
www.platinumsamples.com
Damn, I always thought this was the case, but some people denied it. No TT people, mind you.
Thanks Boys
Trust your Ears ! .
Great tip Rail ,that will come in handy when working quickly.
I want to be clear,i no way is the platinum approach negative i think its a great way to do it.
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