here’s some links to individual tracks from the grind demo ive been working on the past year…
http://vincedrizzzle.tumblr.com/post/1134699576/gonna-start-posting-previews-of-the-songs-now-as
http://vincedrizzzle.tumblr.com/post/1013602597/another-mixdown-of-nostalgic-burst-i-re-tracked
http://vincedrizzzle.tumblr.com/post/829018216/first-reaper-project-ive-begun-to-fully-take
http://vincedrizzzle.tumblr.com/post/729439555/a-grindcore-cowboys-lonely-thrash-serenade-new
http://vincedrizzzle.tumblr.com/post/1486904437/used-one-of-the-atari-or-arcade-kits-from-the
http://tinyurl.com/GRINDbot-lives
UP THE METAL
Why does everything sound like it is coming out of a 1″ Mono speaker?
http://www.metalmusicians.net/<- click here for GORILLA'S website!!!!!
i mix with headphones? my mixes suck? you’re actually using a 1 in “mono” speaker? tumblr degrades the sound quality? i dont like over polished trust fund baby metal mixes?
i need to start using expanders…
Cool Vincenizzle! Just asking…… I love Grind Metal. It just sounded different to me. Here’s an old a$s Grindish doo-diddy I did with DFH and a Pod Pro!
http://metallabs.com/DFH/INDIA_ONE.mp3
Here’s another sample, I mastered at home http://metallabs.com/DFH/KennyLeeDRumSampl3.mp3. Cymbals were real…. everything else was ToonTrack baby!!!!
http://www.metalmusicians.net/<- click here for GORILLA'S website!!!!!
yea i realize how the mix sounds small i only have two gtr tracks in the mix and ive got to adjust reapers pan law or use their chanmix plug in. it seems people focus more on the mix than they do the actual songs on this board. oh well. in any case i’ll be done with writing gtr and drums by the end of december which will leave the vocals and bass. i think the vocals and bass will be done by january and then the tracking will begin at that point. hopefully it’ll be mixed and mastered in february and released around that same time.
That was pretty brutal. The drums sounded quite fake though, did you quantise the drums too much? Humans chill a bit more than that 😉
actually theres no quantize on the drums. i think the main reason they might sound fake is because A) the speed B) i max out the midi velocity on the snare hits. i realize its probly not physically possible to play that hard that fast but it sounds nice n grindy to my ears though im gonna work on the midi velocity once ive done the final drafting phase for the songs to make them more human. with that being said i dont think they sound “fake” as much as they sound “unrealistic” lol
If you play drums you’ll very quickly notice that 127 velocity snare hits that fast ARE impossible. The maxed out power is only achievable via rimshots, and you can’t hit the drum at 240bpm while hitting the rim “80s style”. If you want the snare to sit up in the mix, use transients and compression and gates. It will still sound fake, but “real” fake, instead of “trigger” fake.
A lot of the interaction with a “real” snare is breathing through the snare wires, interaction with the resonance as you hit it… if you listen to a lot of older grind *Napalm Death!* you’ll hear the snare fading back during the massive blast runs. The key is to have realism. Huge snare blasts at 170-200bpm? Maybe. 240+?? No way. That’s speaking as a guy that has been able to blast cannibal grooves at 260bpm. Besides, a good snare sound is usually lower tuned and less prominent in the mix precisely for the reasons above. We’re all just chasiing Lars Ulrich’s sounds, honestly LOL
you know i was trying to get a lower tuned snare sound recently. just something with alot more weight. but like i said im trying to focus on the writing so maxing out the velocity is a bit easier for me right now. thnx for the advice though
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